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		<title>Comment on Tim Eyman still a horse&#8217;s rear by Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=513#comment-93248</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I-200 &lt;a href="http://www.adversity.net/i200.htm#xxi200text" rel="nofollow"&gt;requires&lt;/a&gt; that the state "shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public employment, public education, or public contracting."

H.R. 2661, which is what this post was about, prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. It establishes no quotas or set-asides. There are examples above of some of the types of discrimination that it prohibits.

The only thing that I-200 and H.R. 2661 have to do with each other is Tim Eyman's preposterous claim that "The inclusion of [gays] as a protected class &lt;b&gt;is preferential treatment&lt;/b&gt; over other groups not included in this [law]". Non-discrimination statutes are not the same thing as quotas, no matter how much Tim claims they are.

You don't say what it is, exactly, about the UW's admission policies that you believe are "in error". If you're worried about quotas or set-asides, you should have no problem with H.R. 2661, which establishes neither.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I-200 <a href="http://www.adversity.net/i200.htm#xxi200text" rel="nofollow">requires</a> that the state &#8220;shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public employment, public education, or public contracting.&#8221;</p>
<p>H.R. 2661, which is what this post was about, prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. It establishes no quotas or set-asides. There are examples above of some of the types of discrimination that it prohibits.</p>
<p>The only thing that I-200 and H.R. 2661 have to do with each other is Tim Eyman&#8217;s preposterous claim that &#8220;The inclusion of [gays] as a protected class <b>is preferential treatment</b> over other groups not included in this [law]&#8220;. Non-discrimination statutes are not the same thing as quotas, no matter how much Tim claims they are.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t say what it is, exactly, about the UW&#8217;s admission policies that you believe are &#8220;in error&#8221;. If you&#8217;re worried about quotas or set-asides, you should have no problem with H.R. 2661, which establishes neither.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim Eyman still a horse&#8217;s rear by Paul Fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=513#comment-93247</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm referring to the, "Tim Eyman capsule summary":

"This measure would prohibit state government from requiring any school, church, employer, or other public or private entity to impose quotas, set-asides"

If you notice, there's a mention of school in there, that's why I mentioned The University Of Washington (or UW).  It is my opinion the UW admissions are in error and have a history of ignoring Tim Eyman's I-200 which passed.  http://battlesoftim.com/btrep.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m referring to the, &#8220;Tim Eyman capsule summary&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;This measure would prohibit state government from requiring any school, church, employer, or other public or private entity to impose quotas, set-asides&#8221;</p>
<p>If you notice, there&#8217;s a mention of school in there, that&#8217;s why I mentioned The University Of Washington (or UW).  It is my opinion the UW admissions are in error and have a history of ignoring Tim Eyman&#8217;s I-200 which passed.  <a href="http://battlesoftim.com/btrep.htm" rel="nofollow">http://battlesoftim.com/btrep.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim Eyman still a horse&#8217;s rear by Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=513#comment-92181</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh? This post is not about the UW's admission policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh? This post is not about the UW&#8217;s admission policies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim Eyman still a horse&#8217;s rear by Paul Fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=513#comment-92175</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's more like, The University Of Washington is still a horse's ass.  They seem to ignore the fact Tim Eyman's I-200 passed, yet they seem to discriminate on new student admissions.  http://battlesoftim.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more like, The University Of Washington is still a horse&#8217;s ass.  They seem to ignore the fact Tim Eyman&#8217;s I-200 passed, yet they seem to discriminate on new student admissions.  <a href="http://battlesoftim.com" rel="nofollow">http://battlesoftim.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Too hip to hop by katus</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=171#comment-68040</link>
		<dc:creator>katus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. Did you have the titanium rod removed from your femur? I am researching this, as my mum who is 60, and had a rod put in hers last year, wants it removed when she gets the screws out.I think she's mad!How is your leg and how old are you?
katus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. Did you have the titanium rod removed from your femur? I am researching this, as my mum who is 60, and had a rod put in hers last year, wants it removed when she gets the screws out.I think she&#8217;s mad!How is your leg and how old are you?<br />
katus</p>
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		<title>Comment on 6 Weeks Gone by hHh™</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=36#comment-61732</link>
		<dc:creator>hHh™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and me bro, I had a femoral fracture about 2 months ago. And my Xray looks almost the same as yours. Touche..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and me bro, I had a femoral fracture about 2 months ago. And my Xray looks almost the same as yours. Touche..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fox news calls for Muslim-Only lines at airports by linda young</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=754#comment-60547</link>
		<dc:creator>linda young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can you tell me where michael gross practices? i'm in the u.k. and need to speak to him on a legal matter.

thankyou</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can you tell me where michael gross practices? i&#8217;m in the u.k. and need to speak to him on a legal matter.</p>
<p>thankyou</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did Marilyn Monroe really wear a size 14? by Lorraine</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=925#comment-47174</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's true— she wore a size 14. A VINTAGE size 14, that is. I collect vintage clothing, and I, too, wear a vintage size 14. But I wear a size 6-8 in modern clothing. It's a different sizing scale, one that is still used by sewing pattern makers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true— she wore a size 14. A VINTAGE size 14, that is. I collect vintage clothing, and I, too, wear a vintage size 14. But I wear a size 6-8 in modern clothing. It&#8217;s a different sizing scale, one that is still used by sewing pattern makers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Bush drinking again? by vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=342#comment-38588</link>
		<dc:creator>vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 05:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bu$h is a drunk, a thief, a liar, a murderer, and a goddamn fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bu$h is a drunk, a thief, a liar, a murderer, and a goddamn fool.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Big Changes by Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=971#comment-34711</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, while you're pondering what to do next, care to weigh in about the Internet radio situation?

http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000196</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, while you&#8217;re pondering what to do next, care to weigh in about the Internet radio situation?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000196" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000196</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Big Changes by Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today is Blog Against Sexism Day and since you blog about such things regularly, I thought you might be interested. :) 

http://www.takingplace.org/blog-against-sexism-day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today is Blog Against Sexism Day and since you blog about such things regularly, I thought you might be interested. <img src='http://www.chezlark.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.takingplace.org/blog-against-sexism-day" rel="nofollow">http://www.takingplace.org/blog-against-sexism-day</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The American Government vs. the American People vs. The Idea That Is America by Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=969#comment-33234</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is sad that this is what our goverment has come to represent and it is even more sad that as a result this is what individual Americans have come to represent to the world at large.  I certainly hope the upcoming election and the already elected democratic majority in Congress can counteract some of the horrendousness of the current administration.  It would certainly be nice to start to be seen in a more positive light.  At least as individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sad that this is what our goverment has come to represent and it is even more sad that as a result this is what individual Americans have come to represent to the world at large.  I certainly hope the upcoming election and the already elected democratic majority in Congress can counteract some of the horrendousness of the current administration.  It would certainly be nice to start to be seen in a more positive light.  At least as individuals.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A postcard from abroad by Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=968#comment-33107</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a regular reader of this blog, I wanted to respectfully ask you to please make a distinction between the U.S. government and the PEOPLE of the U.S. They are different. Which I know you know, but which doesn't always come across in your blog.  Saying that the "U.S." has no respect for the rule of law is insulting to all of the people who do not agree with these policies, who DO have respect for the rule of law, and who feel suspect about the current administration (who 48% DID NOT even vote for)and their treatment of oh...EVERYTHING. There are many of us, and it is frustrating as an American to be constantly lumped in with the Bush Administration and their supporters regardless of one's politics.  Any American oversees is, like it or not, forced to be a representative for the entire country, and I can tell you, its exhausting. I respect your thoughts on most things, and I agree with your politics on almost everything, but I bristle a bit when you use "America" and "the U.S." when really you're talking about the current government. You did the same on the post about the Washington State gay rights issues when you said "Ain't America grand".  Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive and I agree that there are a lot of crappy things about the government, and about some people here, but that's all countries.  There are also a lot of GOOD things and a lot of GOOD people and its a just a little demoralizing to feel like all anyone ever sees is the bad- especially a blog you read regularly and genuinely respect.  I'm sorry to vent,and I certainly don't mean ANY disrespect, but I just needed to get that off my chest.  My best wishes always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a regular reader of this blog, I wanted to respectfully ask you to please make a distinction between the U.S. government and the PEOPLE of the U.S. They are different. Which I know you know, but which doesn&#8217;t always come across in your blog.  Saying that the &#8220;U.S.&#8221; has no respect for the rule of law is insulting to all of the people who do not agree with these policies, who DO have respect for the rule of law, and who feel suspect about the current administration (who 48% DID NOT even vote for)and their treatment of oh&#8230;EVERYTHING. There are many of us, and it is frustrating as an American to be constantly lumped in with the Bush Administration and their supporters regardless of one&#8217;s politics.  Any American oversees is, like it or not, forced to be a representative for the entire country, and I can tell you, its exhausting. I respect your thoughts on most things, and I agree with your politics on almost everything, but I bristle a bit when you use &#8220;America&#8221; and &#8220;the U.S.&#8221; when really you&#8217;re talking about the current government. You did the same on the post about the Washington State gay rights issues when you said &#8220;Ain&#8217;t America grand&#8221;.  Perhaps I&#8217;m being overly sensitive and I agree that there are a lot of crappy things about the government, and about some people here, but that&#8217;s all countries.  There are also a lot of GOOD things and a lot of GOOD people and its a just a little demoralizing to feel like all anyone ever sees is the bad- especially a blog you read regularly and genuinely respect.  I&#8217;m sorry to vent,and I certainly don&#8217;t mean ANY disrespect, but I just needed to get that off my chest.  My best wishes always.</p>
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		<title>Comment on German Existentialism Comes to YouTube by Claire</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=964#comment-32555</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you go to the website at the end of the video? indexed.blogspot.com : this is where the design/inspiration for the diagrams came from. "Nach  den Diagrammen von" ~= "After the diagrams of"

Fairly adorable little blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you go to the website at the end of the video? indexed.blogspot.com : this is where the design/inspiration for the diagrams came from. &#8220;Nach  den Diagrammen von&#8221; ~= &#8220;After the diagrams of&#8221;</p>
<p>Fairly adorable little blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Snickers: only sometimes heteronormative by Jonathan Trenn</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=965#comment-31725</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 01:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes.  You are quite right in that we were meant to laught at them, not with them.  But in today's advertising arena, we're laughing at men quite a bit.  Blue collar or white collar.

And now that I've read your account (and others) of the 'alternative' endings that were online, I'm even more blown away at Mars' stupidity.  Those are definitely homophobic.

Odd thing is on Monday I was hungry while I was out and bought a Snickers Bar.  And while I was doing that, the commercial didn't even come to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes.  You are quite right in that we were meant to laught at them, not with them.  But in today&#8217;s advertising arena, we&#8217;re laughing at men quite a bit.  Blue collar or white collar.</p>
<p>And now that I&#8217;ve read your account (and others) of the &#8216;alternative&#8217; endings that were online, I&#8217;m even more blown away at Mars&#8217; stupidity.  Those are definitely homophobic.</p>
<p>Odd thing is on Monday I was hungry while I was out and bought a Snickers Bar.  And while I was doing that, the commercial didn&#8217;t even come to mind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Snickers: only sometimes heteronormative by Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you believe the two characters in the ad are meant to depict blue-collar males generally, then yes, I suppose the ad is insulting to blue-collar males. I would imagine that it's &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; insulting because it depicts these two particular blue-collar guys as mindlessly homophobic to the point of self-injury!

Personally, I'm also ticked off about men being systematically depicted as stupid in pop culture, but I didn't get that from this ad, because I honestly don't believe that the target audience is meant to identify with these characters. Like I said, I think we're meant to laugh at them, not with them.

I could be wrong about that, though, in which case I think it would make perfect sense to be offended by the caricature of blue-collar males as simple-minded slaves to hetero gender roles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you believe the two characters in the ad are meant to depict blue-collar males generally, then yes, I suppose the ad is insulting to blue-collar males. I would imagine that it&#8217;s <i>most</i> insulting because it depicts these two particular blue-collar guys as mindlessly homophobic to the point of self-injury!</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m also ticked off about men being systematically depicted as stupid in pop culture, but I didn&#8217;t get that from this ad, because I honestly don&#8217;t believe that the target audience is meant to identify with these characters. Like I said, I think we&#8217;re meant to laugh at them, not with them.</p>
<p>I could be wrong about that, though, in which case I think it would make perfect sense to be offended by the caricature of blue-collar males as simple-minded slaves to hetero gender roles.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Snickers: only sometimes heteronormative by Jonathan Trenn</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=965#comment-31692</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me see if I understand this...you describe the two guys (who are blue collar and similar to millions of other men) as being "basically neanderthals: they’re unkempt, pudgy, working in a crappy garage on a crappy car, and evidently idiotic enough to rip out chunks of their own chest hair to demonstrate their heterosexuality."

OK, I fully realize how people could see this ad as homophobic...and I agree with your point that it is in many ways anti-homophobic...but what does it say about, well, working class guys?  It directly insults them.  It seems everyone is missing that.  But it's not yet 'politically incorrect' to do this.

Will it sell product?  Consider the comments of Miller CMO Tom Long right after he came on board...“People will tell you that beer is not sophisticated enough, or stylish enough, to compete with wine and spirits. Why do they think that? Well, I believe it’s because we told them to.”

THAT'S why ads like this don't work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me see if I understand this&#8230;you describe the two guys (who are blue collar and similar to millions of other men) as being &#8220;basically neanderthals: they’re unkempt, pudgy, working in a crappy garage on a crappy car, and evidently idiotic enough to rip out chunks of their own chest hair to demonstrate their heterosexuality.&#8221;</p>
<p>OK, I fully realize how people could see this ad as homophobic&#8230;and I agree with your point that it is in many ways anti-homophobic&#8230;but what does it say about, well, working class guys?  It directly insults them.  It seems everyone is missing that.  But it&#8217;s not yet &#8216;politically incorrect&#8217; to do this.</p>
<p>Will it sell product?  Consider the comments of Miller CMO Tom Long right after he came on board&#8230;“People will tell you that beer is not sophisticated enough, or stylish enough, to compete with wine and spirits. Why do they think that? Well, I believe it’s because we told them to.”</p>
<p>THAT&#8217;S why ads like this don&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Senator describes the Internet by Soundboard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soundboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out http://itsnotabigtruck.com/ it's a Ted Stevens Soundboard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out <a href="http://itsnotabigtruck.com/" rel="nofollow">http://itsnotabigtruck.com/</a> it&#8217;s a Ted Stevens Soundboard</p>
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		<title>Comment on Meme Watch: &#8220;Aid and comfort&#8221; by AndreaC</title>
		<link>http://www.chezlark.com/?p=955#comment-24010</link>
		<dc:creator>AndreaC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Davis said war critics give "aid and comfort to the enemy," which is treason, which is a crime PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.
 http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/5/233151/995</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Davis said war critics give &#8220;aid and comfort to the enemy,&#8221; which is treason, which is a crime PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.<br />
 <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/5/233151/995" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/5/233151/995</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Something is amiss here&#8230; by zeynep</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeynep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that is very strange. Do we know how much of their revenue is actually from Operations (ads, etc) and how much is from re-investing their cash? It could be that they're just really good investors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that is very strange. Do we know how much of their revenue is actually from Operations (ads, etc) and how much is from re-investing their cash? It could be that they&#8217;re just really good investors.</p>
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